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Error using Mirror tool..... [message #171562] Tue, 05 September 2017 15:24 Go to next message
ezflyr
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Registered: February 2011
Location: Wakefield, MA
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Hi All,

I'm using Eagle v6.6.0 standard edition, and I'm encountering an error when I try to move a component to the backside of the board using the mirror tool. The error is "The Standard Edition of Eagle cannot perform the Requested operation", and "Some objects extend outside the allowed board area".

My board size is 5" x 3.5", and the component easily fits on the frontside of the board and Eagle is happy about it. The component outline itself is 3.7" x 2.8", so it seems like in the act of mirroring that Eagle perceives the component to be outside the allowable area?

The component in question is for a GLCD module, and simply consists of a 20 pin header, 4 mounting holes, and the part outline.

Thanks,

John
Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171563 is a reply to message #171562] Tue, 05 September 2017 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rachaelp
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Registered: March 2015
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Hi John,

Is the package centred on it's origin or has the package been created with the origin on one corner? If it's been placed on a corner then mirroring it will mirror it on that corner such that part of the part would end up partially outside the board. If this is the case then you'll need to edit the part to centre it so that when it's mirrored it mirrors about its centre and sits directly below where it was on the bottom side.

Best Regards,

Rachael

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Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171564 is a reply to message #171563] Tue, 05 September 2017 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ezflyr
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Hi Rachel,

OK, many thanks! Yes, the part has its origin at one corner, so I'm sure that is what is going on! This origin location is desirable for placement purposes, but I can work around that issue as long as I can get the part on the backside!

Thanks,

John
Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171567 is a reply to message #171564] Tue, 05 September 2017 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob Pearce
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On 05/09/17 16:50, jmorley@endeavour-usa.com wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
>
> OK, many thanks! Yes, the part has its origin at one corner, so I'm sure
> that is what is going on! This origin location is desirable for placement
> purposes, but I can work around that issue as long as I can get the part on
> the backside!
>
Don't use the mirror tool directly. Use the "MOVE" tool to pick it up,
then click the middle button to mirror it and move it back onto the
valid board area before placing it.
Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171568 is a reply to message #171567] Tue, 05 September 2017 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rachaelp
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> CadSoft Guest wrote:
>
> Don't use the mirror tool directly. Use the "MOVE" tool to pick it up,
> then click the middle button to mirror it and move it back onto the
> valid board area before placing it.
Yes that's a good suggestion! Except if you are using a mac and have no middle button of course....

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Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171575 is a reply to message #171568] Wed, 06 September 2017 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warrenbrayshaw
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On 6/09/2017 6:22 a.m., rachaelp wrote:
>> CadSoft Guest wrote:
>>
>> Don't use the mirror tool directly. Use the "MOVE" tool to pick it up,
>> then click the middle button to mirror it and move it back onto the
>> valid board area before placing it.
> Yes that's a good suggestion! Except if you are using a mac and have no middle button of course....
>


Click the MOVE icon
Click on the element you wish to move
At this point the Element is stuck to the mouse.
Then, in the 'Parameter Toolbar' click on 'Mirrored'
The element is now mirrored on the mouse
Lastly place the element where you need it, within the edition constraints


HTH
Warren


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Re: Error using Mirror tool.. ... [message #171576 is a reply to message #171575] Wed, 06 September 2017 10:52 Go to previous message
rachaelp
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warrenbrayshaw wrote on Wed, 06 September 2017 11:38

Click the MOVE icon
Click on the element you wish to move
At this point the Element is stuck to the mouse.
Then, in the 'Parameter Toolbar' click on 'Mirrored'
The element is now mirrored on the mouse
Lastly place the element where you need it, within the edition constraints


Yes that works too...

John,

My post explained why mirror didn't work in your situation and how to fix it so that it does (I make all my components centred on their origin so that rotate/mirror work reliably) but Rob and Warren are quite right that the best solution in your case is simply to use the MOVE command and use its inbuilt mirroring capability. Sorry if my oversight made you alter your component unnecessarily....

Best Regards,

Rachael
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