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Cannot move groups [message #169991] Thu, 09 March 2017 20:42 Go to next message
James Sawle
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First off I am VERY new to Eagle, come from a Proteus background, but have been asked to put some of my schematics into Eagle format for others to work on.

I am trying to follow some really basic tutorials on Eagle to get my head around it but have stumbled at the first video....

How do you 'Move' and 'Group'?

All I get is an annoying 'Boing' from the computer every time I try to select a group, and nothing is getting selected, I have looked at the help section and I should be able to select the group, then 'Ctrl+Right Click' to move the group, again all I get is a 'Boing' from the computer and nothing happens!

I have tried just putting 2 resistors on the screen and I can move each one without any issues, but try to select both and I get a 'Boing'.

This is becoming very annoying, especially as something this basic I should be able to sort out but I must be doing something wrong?

Any help would be much appreciated

Feeling stupid!

James

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #169994 is a reply to message #169991] Thu, 09 March 2017 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
c4m4ch0
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Hi, see the video below.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbhCF21V14]

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #169995 is a reply to message #169994] Fri, 10 March 2017 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Sawle
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Is that REALLY the only way to move a load of parts in one go??????

That is pathetic!

I think I will tell the client to shove it, they can either except the schematics in Proteus or PADS, I really have never used such a piece of shit as this before...

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #170007 is a reply to message #169995] Fri, 10 March 2017 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olin
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James Sawle wrote on Thu, 09 March 2017 20:22

Is that REALLY the only way to move a load of parts in one go??????


I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), but moving a group of components is really very easy. You group them, then move them. When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the left. That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.

The group action is also quite flexible. You can drag a rectangle, or you can click points of a polygon to define a arbitrary irregular shape. The latter is often useful in schematics after a bunch of components have already been placed on the sheet.

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That is pathetic!

I think I will tell the client to shove it,


Grow up and loose the attitude. Besides, this sort of over-stated rant just makes you look bad, not the tool. Again, moving a group is really easy in Eagle.
Re: Cannot move groups [message #170011 is a reply to message #170007] Sat, 11 March 2017 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Sawle
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> I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), butmoving a group of components is really very easy. You group them, then
> move them. When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the
> left. That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.
We have tried this, I also got 2 of my colleagues to try as well just in case I was being very stupid, but we still could not get this to work at all.

Don't think the client would be too happy if we told them to shove it, but after explaining the issues that we were having with Eagle they are sending 2 people down to train us for a week, hopefully this will iron out any problems that we have with the software, we dont mind as they are paying for the seats that we require for the software.

As for the attitude issue, I understand, but we spend thousands each year on software, and we wont normally purchase any software that is not usable, at this moment we regard this software as unusable, as the client is offering training and software we will give it a go,

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #170012 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 11 March 2017 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joern Paschedag
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Am 11.03.2017 um 04:06 schrieb James Sawle:
>> I don't know what you are referring to (not gonna watch a video), butmoving a group of components is really very easy. You group them, then
>> move them. When doing the move, use the right mouse button instead of the
>> left. That selects the group as opposed to the nearest part.
> We have tried this, I also got 2 of my colleagues to try as well just in case I was being very stupid, but we still could not get this to work at all.
>
> Don't think the client would be too happy if we told them to shove it, but after explaining the issues that we were having with Eagle they are sending 2 people down to train us for a week, hopefully this will iron out any problems that we have with the software, we dont mind as they are paying for the seats that we require for the software.
>
> As for the attitude issue, I understand, but we spend thousands each year on software, and we wont normally purchase any software that is not usable, at this moment we regard this software as unusable, as the client is offering training and software we will give it a go,
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The only issue I see.... is YOU.

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #170839 is a reply to message #169991] Sun, 25 June 2017 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
guus vorsterman
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So I'm new to Eagle and in 8.2.2 moving a group is to select the group and *left-click* and drag the group.

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Re: Cannot move groups [message #170883 is a reply to message #170839] Fri, 30 June 2017 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rachaelp
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guus vorsterman wrote on Sun, 25 June 2017 13:14
So I'm new to Eagle and in 8.2.2 moving a group is to select the group and *left-click* and drag the group.

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Hello,

You are right, as of v8 there is a new way to be able to do grouping / moving. Unfortunately this new functionality changes other things which have a negative overall impact on productivity so almost all experienced users will go turn this feature right back off again straight away in the settings.

Options -> Set... -> Misc Tab, uncheck then "Group Command Default On" option.

The original way is really simple:

1. Select MOVE.
2. Select GROUP and then create either a rectangular group my dragging around an area or an arbitrary shaped group by clicking points.
3. Ctrl + Right Click (Cmd on macOS) and the MOVE function previously selected will be actioned on the selected group and you can drag it around and place it.

Now, having to go click on icons in the toolbar, thus taking your mouse away from where you were wanting it in your design can slow you down, so this is why almost all experienced users will have keyboard shortcuts set up to initial MOVE, COPY, PASTE, GROUP, etc and if you have a mouse with extra programmable buttons you can usually find ways to assign things to these buttons so you don't even need two hands.

Best Regards,

Rachael
Re: Cannot move groups [message #170884 is a reply to message #169995] Fri, 30 June 2017 11:21 Go to previous message
geralds
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Hi,
Please listen the 4min video i created for you:
[video]

Basically, if you like insert a component - press the button "ADD" - the library will open then you can select your component.
Drag it in the listing and drop it in your schematic on the place where ever you like.
... go so on...
If you have open also your PCB you can see that the component will inserted onto the outside of the "board" -> dimension for the routing area.
So then you can select move - button MOVE - select your component and move it.
Move group - button GROUP - with the mouse button draw a rectangle - "group area" - press the button MOVE - press the right mouse button to get the menu,
select MOVE GROUP and then move the group of your selected components where ever you like.
Similar works ROTATE.

I like working with all mouse buttons:
left button: select/deselect - "drag/drop" with your "hand".
right button: a menu pops up for selecting the item you need
middle button: normal usage: moving the complete workspace of the schematic or PCB
mouse wheel: zoom in / zoom out the workspace
That are the absolut basics in the usage of Eagle, or also in an other CAD software.

Best Regards
Gerald
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