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Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169635] Thu, 23 February 2017 12:20 Go to next message
colin[2]
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Hi

Can anyone helP?

I'm looking for a CPU board with some rom(or flash or whatever) some ram and
USB I/O but little or nothing else. (IE No video chips etc)
IE Minimal bare metal.

CPU to be as powerful as possible - If theres an X86-64 board that would be ideal.
I could use 32 or 64 bit CPU. Power is my key factor. (I dont want a
multiprocessor board or "network")

I'm happy to buy an existing board to meet my needs or could build one if
a suitable circuit example exists.

The only eagle design I can find is an atmel which is clearly no good to me.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

colin
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169638 is a reply to message #169635] Thu, 23 February 2017 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Huber
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On 02/23/2017 07:20 AM, colin wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Can anyone helP?
>
> I'm looking for a CPU board with some rom(or flash or whatever) some ram and
> USB I/O but little or nothing else. (IE No video chips etc)
> IE Minimal bare metal.
>
> CPU to be as powerful as possible - If theres an X86-64 board that would be ideal.
> I could use 32 or 64 bit CPU. Power is my key factor. (I dont want a
> multiprocessor board or "network")
>
> I'm happy to buy an existing board to meet my needs or could build one if
> a suitable circuit example exists.
>
> The only eagle design I can find is an atmel which is clearly no good to me.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> colin
>
>

Take a look at Technologic Systems. They have multiple configurations
of ARM and Intel single board computers. They are also willing to
design a board of your choice.
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169639 is a reply to message #169635] Thu, 23 February 2017 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
geralds
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Hi,

you can look for here:
Power Architecture® Processors|NXP ( http://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers-and-processors/power-architect ure-processors:POWER-ARCHITECTURE)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169719 is a reply to message #169638] Sat, 25 February 2017 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colin[2]
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In article <o8mqeg$572$1@baboon.cadsoft.de>, chuck.huber@dukepro.com
says...


Thanks for both responses.

I've taken a look at the suggestions but neither seems suitable.
Either processors with everything including the kitchen sink crippling the silicon
or just not enough oomph - (ARMS are too underpowered for my use I think -
and seem extraordinarily complex to set up to try and be all things to all people)

Unless I've missed something or missunderstood the very complex world
of CPU's today nobody is buildng a powerful optimised processor.
If I needed graphics output I could look at GPU's but again the current use
seems to preclude just "processing" The extra stuff just complicates matters.

I guess I'm going t have to make massive compromises to get anything
to work - but its a bit suprising.

Unless I've missed something or missunderstood.

but thanks again.

colin




>
> On 02/23/2017 07:20 AM, colin wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can anyone helP?
>>
>> I'm looking for a CPU board with some rom(or flash or whatever) some ram and
>> USB I/O but little or nothing else. (IE No video chips etc)
>> IE Minimal bare metal.
>>
>> CPU to be as powerful as possible - If theres an X86-64 board that would be ideal.
>> I could use 32 or 64 bit CPU. Power is my key factor. (I dont want a
>> multiprocessor board or "network")
>>
>> I'm happy to buy an existing board to meet my needs or could build one if
>> a suitable circuit example exists.
>>
>> The only eagle design I can find is an atmel which is clearly no good to me.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> colin
>>
>>
>
> Take a look at Technologic Systems. They have multiple configurations
> of ARM and Intel single board computers. They are also willing to
> design a board of your choice.



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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169727 is a reply to message #169719] Sat, 25 February 2017 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob Pearce
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On 25/02/17 11:36, colin wrote:
> (ARMS are too underpowered for my use I think -
> and seem extraordinarily complex to set up to try and be all things to all people)
>
> Unless I've missed something or missunderstood the very complex world
> of CPU's today nobody is buildng a powerful optimised processor.

I think you're being prejudiced and artificially limiting your options
until you reach the conclusion your grumpiness desires.

If you really need multi-gigahertz 64-bit multi-core then buy a PC. You
can get CoreI7 miniITX boards. The presence of a (fairly minimal) GPU
on-chip is NOT costing you anything in performance, any more than it
disadvantages the gaming community who would sooner cut their own
private parts out than countenance the use of an on-chip GPU instead of
a massively over-priced graphics card.

If your actual requirements are less intense - perhaps one GHz quad core
32-bit - then there are some very reasonably priced (and not at ALL hard
to set up) ARM devices available. And for a bonus, many of them don't
have GPUs. Of course, you'll have to actually do some work to design
those chips onto a board.
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169728 is a reply to message #169635] Sat, 25 February 2017 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
eaglecandies
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Here is a very recent & complete design using a 32 bit processor...looks rather powerful & friendly to work with. Maybe Sam can lend a hand:

https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tWeZS2NX

Also what about a PIC32MZ device---what are your peripheral requirements? As far as processing power, make sure you analyze your process, since sometimes slight modification can drastically raise or lower computing needs (such as using integer rather than floating point).
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169731 is a reply to message #169719] Sat, 25 February 2017 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neon John
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:36:47 -0000, colin <colin@example.com> wrote:

> I've taken a look at the suggestions but neither seems suitable.
> Either processors with everything including the kitchen sink crippling the silicon
> or just not enough oomph - (ARMS are too underpowered for my use I think -
> and seem extraordinarily complex to set up to try and be all things to all people)

The major problem is that you haven't told us what you want to do with
this processor. "number crunching" covers a practically infinite
spectrum.

Doesn't Intel still make the Itanium high end processor?
Last time it mattered to me there were companies that made
"supercomputer on a card" to go in a PC expansion slot. I'd look to
see if those still exist.

John
John DeArmond
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.tnduction.com
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
See website for email address
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169732 is a reply to message #169635] Sat, 25 February 2017 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas Wong
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You could take a look at Olimex cards - they are open source with full cad files available.
The A33-OLinuXino-4GB is a quad core ARM Cortex A7.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169749 is a reply to message #169732] Sun, 26 February 2017 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colin[3]
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Everybody ...

Thank you all for the input.
I appreciate the desire to help but

I'm not looking for a for a microcontroler. quite the reverse really.
I'm looking for a powerful CPU with no extraneous peripherals
except FPU and maybe some form of memory management would be
ok.Nothing much. on a card I just need I/O and a bit of booting memory
and some fast I/O - as fast as possible and a USB port prefereable v3.1.
If nothing on the board all processor pins socketed
for access. (This would be the ideal scenario - just a fast processor board)
Nothing clocked below 1Ghz is likely to be any use.
I'm not sure about the itaniums - I'll look into that thanks.
Things that need a PC are no use to me.
Arm processors are not up to the job.

colin

ps. I've been asked to say please ignore he the johntech.co.uk site I dont have
email there I'm just using their newsgroup gateway. Someone tried to mail
me there apparently.
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169752 is a reply to message #169749] Sun, 26 February 2017 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Douglas Wong
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Sounds like a rare animal.
If you want a high end Intel chip, the next step after a CPU socket is to add a support chipset, but this is already a full blown PC with all sorts of peripheral I/O.
Check out the quad Core i7 Kontron AM4024.
There are a few military CPU modules, but they are targeted at specific systems to achieve a workable infrastructure.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169753 is a reply to message #169635] Sun, 26 February 2017 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clem Martins
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The task you want to do can be solved if you would elaborate. I work with mainframes and can verify that speed does not mean workload performed. My job was to take a workload and optimize it on a given machine. If you check the curve of  throughput v time processor busy, the bottleneck could be things like network(messages) or I/O (HDD or SSD). Processor is just a piece of the problem. Even with no I/O, the work set  of memory(SDRAM or DRAM) can bottleneck the CPU from running full out. So bottom line the workload matters greatly.]:)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169763 is a reply to message #169635] Mon, 27 February 2017 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Zelazny jr
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Example boards are plenty here -
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169765 is a reply to message #169635] Mon, 27 February 2017 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would this do what you want?

http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169796 is a reply to message #169765] Tue, 28 February 2017 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colin[2]
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In article
<1685845295.241488201215693.JavaMail.jive@e14-cr-vp-appj8-04.premierfarnel
l.net>, noreply-379382@element14.com says...
>
> Would this do what you want?
>
> http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

thanks but no.
(It has graphics, ethernet, sata etc ...)
I'm looking for a processor only board with just processor support on board..
It seems no one makes anything close but thanks to everyone for trying.
I guess I'll have to do my own painful as that is.
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169798 is a reply to message #169796] Tue, 28 February 2017 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You say you want a lot of processing grunt and say you want an FPU yet you rule out graphics chips as "just for graphics". They are not. Take a look at OpenCL or CUDA for example. The graphics architectures for a long time now have been designed to be more useful for things other than gaming. What do you think the NVidia Tesla type products designed with HPC in mind are based upon?

How about something like this? http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/jetson-embedded-systems-uk.html

It's an embedded system based around a combined ARM/GPU architecture. Look specifically at the TX1 which is very minimal but exceedingly capable with lots of number crunching grunt. The ARM is a 64-bit A57 and the GPU is based on their Maxwell architecture with 256 cores and will do 1 TFLOP/s.

Is this minimal enough and powerful enough?

Best Regards,

Rachael

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169799 is a reply to message #169796] Tue, 28 February 2017 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
geralds
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You can, perhaps, your processor carve with an ASIC or FPGA.

Have a nice day.
Best Regards
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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169800 is a reply to message #169749] Tue, 28 February 2017 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Kellett
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Hello Colin,

Unless you can explain in more detail what you want to do it isn't really possible to offer any good advice.

If you want to run a big OS then an Intel i7 (or possibly the upcoming AMD parts) is fastest - but designing a board for these devices is a huge task - far better just to but one.

If you want to do DSP like stuff then, amazingly, a DSP might suit you nicely.

If you want really fast response and low latency an FPGA is the way to go.

And so on.

MK

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169801 is a reply to message #169796] Tue, 28 February 2017 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Langbridge
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Hey, watch it! ARM processors are more powerful than you might think. And no, I'm not talking about microcontrollers, but full microprocessor architecture.

I'll second what a few people have said, we don't know exactly what you want, so I'll come up with a few ideas. I don't have a board readily made, since almost everyone adds in Ethernet or SD controllers, "because they can". Some of us actually like that sort of peripheral to be available, even if we don't use them. Olimex has a lot of boards, and most probably have external peripherals, but most importantly, all the schematics are available, so you can make your own module, depending on what you need. As for x86_64, Curtiss-Wright had a few; processors, bus connectors, and nothing else. https://www.curtisswrightds.com/products/cots-boards/processor-cards/

One option that you will probably say no to is the NVIDIA Jetson Compute Module. Now, before you start, yes they make graphics cards, but NVIDIA is known for making some of the best industry number crunchers. Don't underestimate the power of CUDA. Again, that depends on the numbers you want to crunch, and how. Xeons might be better, CUDA might be better, or other massively parallel chips.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169803 is a reply to message #169635] Tue, 28 February 2017 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Zacher
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I think no one has a board like you are looking for because if you are using an Intel type arch you will need a chipset to interface with your peripherals...so, even the USB controller you need will be stacked on PCI through the chipset to interface with the chip....If you really want to strip down an Intel type chip, take a look at the design for the Edison and redesign it for a better chip than the Atom. I think the Edison is about as bare bones as you can get for these chips. The basic arch is the same I would think....

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169814 is a reply to message #169635] Wed, 01 March 2017 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you provide better specifications?
Do you want USB host, device or OTG capabilities?
What type of USB do you want? USB 3.1?
What type of processing do you want? Signal Processing, Generic Processing, Number Crunching,
etc, etc

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169816 is a reply to message #169798] Wed, 01 March 2017 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colin[2]
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Everybody please - thank you - I'm done. What I want isn't available
or cannot be identified by the people here. A production project has been started
to identify products and companies to produce it while we search elsewhere.

Repeatedly telling me that ARM's are good just ignores the fact I've said
they are no good to me. They don't have the power, the architecture is
overcomplex by trying to hit too many buttons amongst other issues
and the licensing is absurd or at the very least unaceptable.

I'm not happy about using X86 either - it's a botched product because
of it's history and is difficult to use for similar reasons to the ARM
processors - it does however have more power and a very wide freely
available toolbase meaning employee skills are easy enough to find.
Just to be clear - intel did a great job of backward protection but that
means an ineficient difficult to use badly designed CPU for new
products. In short - for anything new it's a dog. But there's nothing
comparable so I'm stuck with it for now.

Hopefully that answers the daft comment about "prejudice" earlier. also.

Repeatedly demanding more information "so you can provide an answer"
just tells me you either havn't read what i asked for or don't know enough
to answer in the first place.

So - no need to continue wasting your time.
once again - thank you all for the suggestions but you can stop now.

colin
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169817 is a reply to message #169816] Wed, 01 March 2017 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rachaelp
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> colin[2] wrote:
>
> Everybody please - thank you - I'm done.

Good for you!

> colin[2] wrote:
>
> Hopefully that answers the daft comment about "prejudice" earlier. also.
>
> Repeatedly demanding more information "so you can provide an answer"
> just tells me you either havn't read what i asked for or don't know enough
> to answer in the first place.
>
> So - no need to continue wasting your time.
> once again - thank you all for the suggestions but you can stop now.
>
> colin
This is just rude, and saying thank you in your last sentence doesn't make it any less so.

Lots of people on here are very capable engineering professionals who share their experience here for free. If we were paid to do consultancy for a project a more thorough response might be more forthcoming but you can't expect people to spend lots of effort trying to help you find your answers for free, especially when you are dismissive and rude.

I wish you the best of luck with your project but I wont partake in your discussions any further.

Regards,

Rachael

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169819 is a reply to message #169816] Wed, 01 March 2017 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah,
what I'm remember about it.
There was at that time a processor called "Transputer", - e.g. T400, T800, from INMOS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer

That was an open system fine and easy to use for parallel processing.
I don't know where you can actually get this thing, please look for.
I was also interested about it, that was so in the 80's.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169820 is a reply to message #169816] Wed, 01 March 2017 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
geralds
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Hi,
You never told us about your projects.
We can not read into your brain what you think.
AND!!! Many projects are under security and we can not divulging our secrets.
But, I think you have a secret project ... from the "COMPANY"?

Have a nice day.
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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169821 is a reply to message #169635] Wed, 01 March 2017 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Note to self: Ignore ppl who start a bog with "wanted"! Seems to indicate a sycophant.;)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169822 is a reply to message #169749] Wed, 01 March 2017 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Planning on doing some Bitcoin mining?

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169825 is a reply to message #169817] Wed, 01 March 2017 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colin[2]
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In article
<874879143.151488369719990.JavaMail.jive@e14-cr-vp-appj8-02.premierfarnell.
net>, noreply-391202@element14.com says...
> This is just rude, and saying thank you in your last sentence doesn't make it any less so
>

As a matter of fact I've been very polite.
This newsgroup I believe has not in the least judging by the last few posts.
Clearly not a group of professionals.

Element 14 was a last ditch effort to source what we need - I won't waste my
time in future if this is how people behave here.

..colin
Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169827 is a reply to message #169825] Wed, 01 March 2017 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Colin,

Everyone here has been trying to read sufficient engineering requirements from you, but the information is too vague to help in any meaningful way.
In fact, your first post didn't quantify a single requirement, it was all subjective (e.g. "some rom or flash or whatever").

As another example, you suggest that 'maybe' memory management is ok. Well, that makes a massive difference not only to the possible products that can be suggested, but will make a massive difference to whichever person may have to code up the driver for the USB 3.1 that you mention if the part you choose does not have memory management, unless some OS is suggested too.

Whichever forum you choose to seek your information from, it is strongly suggested that you get the requirements +in detail+ from your engineers before trying to find a suitable device.

Here is a web link that may help in framing questions:


Not everything there will apply for all questions, but even the first three points can often help. It might not immediately help you, but it helps engineers to understand the context of your needs and ultimately get you a better answer.

1. My Goal in detail
+(e.g. climb a mountain next year)+
2. What things I'm trying to solve
+   (e.g. establish how high I am)+
3. What constraints I have
+(e.g. cost, software experience, hardware experience)+

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169828 is a reply to message #169635] Wed, 01 March 2017 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello!
According with the comment before from ​ the best way to follow is what he suggest; anyway following my pure intuition and trying to understand what can fit your needs I suggest to buy a Gizmo2 board that is a very powerful and low power CPU, supporting Ubuntu and Windows 8 industrial as well as Windows 10. It is a open source processor board with lot of good features.

Enrico

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169829 is a reply to message #169828] Wed, 01 March 2017 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,
are sure that the Gizmo board helps? ;) What if he want to build a space shuttle?
He didn't describe concrete what he want neither for what he need the processor.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169830 is a reply to message #169829] Wed, 01 March 2017 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enrico Miglino
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Hello Gerald,
As I wrote, the first consideration is anyway:
*According with the comment before from shabaz (https://www.element14.com/community/people/shabaz) the best way to follow is what he suggest*

Then I have no idea what he want to build. I hope that he want to build just a space shuttle as you suggest because I have a full PCB and open source project just to make one (one person only, reduced size due the embedded board usage). :) LoL

Enrico


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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169831 is a reply to message #169819] Wed, 01 March 2017 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Gerald Schwarz wrote:
>
> There was at that time a processor called "Transputer", - e.g. T400, T800, from INMOS.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer ( https://www.element14.com/community/external-link.jspa?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen .wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTransputer)
>
> That was an open system fine and easy to use for parallel processing.
> I don't know where you can actually get this thing, please look for.
> I was also interested about it, that was so in the 80's.
Gerald, what was the original concept for the transputer eventually morphed into XMOS xCORE: http://www.xmos.com/products/silicon

Best Regards,

Rachael

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169833 is a reply to message #169831] Wed, 01 March 2017 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shabaz
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They've had some investment in recent times and have also spun off another company developing a new range called IPU (Intelligent Processing Unit). It sounds super interesting, and will be available this year as I understand. The original xCORE range has evolved over the past few years too, they increased the pipeline and doubled up on some parts of the processor, to allow dual execution, to the point that even GigEth is possible with it : ) It has been on my list for ages to build up a small board with the recent xCORE (called xCORE-200) but lack of time hasn't helped : ( This summer hopefully.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169835 is a reply to message #169833] Wed, 01 March 2017 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Welsby
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> shabaz wrote:
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> They've had some investment in recent times and have also spun off another company developing a new range called IPU (Intelligent Processing Unit). It sounds super interesting, and will be available this year as I understand. The original xCORE range has evolved over the past few years too, they increased the pipeline and doubled up on some parts of the processor, to allow dual execution, to the point that even GigEth is possible with it : ) It has been on my list for ages to build up a small board with the recent xCORE (called xCORE-200) but lack of time hasn't helped : ( This summer hopefully.
There's never enough time, but this sounds fun, any thoughts on uses or is it just for educational purposes  ;)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169837 is a reply to message #169819] Wed, 01 March 2017 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Welsby
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> Gerald Schwarz wrote:
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> Ah,
> what I'm remember about it.
> There was at that time a processor called "Transputer", - e.g. T400, T800, from INMOS.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer ( https://www.element14.com/community/external-link.jspa?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen .wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTransputer)
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> That was an open system fine and easy to use for parallel processing.
> I don't know where you can actually get this thing, please look for.
> I was also interested about it, that was so in the 80's.
>
> Gerald
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Happy memories    back in the "Transputer" days I put together a design proposal using an array of T800 devices to perform matrix transformations I even went on an Occam  training course at Inmos.
Happy times :)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169843 is a reply to message #169835] Thu, 02 March 2017 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The dev-board is fairly expensive so I wanted to make a smaller bare-bones board that could be used for experimenting whenever lots of I/O is needed. Plus it is fun programming for it, it really makes one think how to split code across the threads! : )

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169847 is a reply to message #169843] Thu, 02 March 2017 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Kellett
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I wonder how programming the Xcore2 in it's funny C compares with using Xilinx HLS (funny C for FPGA) - I'll be interested to see how you get on with it, for now I'm committed to the FPGA route (and I haven't yet got to trying the HLS part of the Vivado toolset.)

MK

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169848 is a reply to message #169847] Thu, 02 March 2017 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll be much easier once you've become proficient with the PSoC's UDB Datapaths.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169851 is a reply to message #169848] Thu, 02 March 2017 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Kellett
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:-/ - I don't use PSOCs - they aren't quite in the Xcore2 or real FPGA league when it comes to multi threaded hardware performance.

MK

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169853 is a reply to message #169851] Thu, 02 March 2017 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wasn't talking about performance- I was talking code comprehension and caveats.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169854 is a reply to message #169853] Thu, 02 March 2017 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about the Parallax Propeller?

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169883 is a reply to message #169635] Fri, 03 March 2017 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Enrico Miglino
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Something interesting will happen on comments of threads like this ... We all try to understand and suggest what is the best solution for us while the original author seems disappearing for a while :)

Enrico

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169888 is a reply to message #169883] Fri, 03 March 2017 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andrew Elvin-Dunham
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He's gone. You guys didn't give him enough cuddles maybe! ;)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169889 is a reply to message #169888] Fri, 03 March 2017 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joern Paschedag
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Am 03.03.2017 um 08:33 schrieb Andrew Elvin-Dunham:
> He's gone. You guys didn't give him enough cuddles maybe! ;)
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IMHO the whole thing looks like trolling anyway.

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169894 is a reply to message #169888] Fri, 03 March 2017 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clem Martins
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He is in the Twilight Zone! ]:)

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Re: Wanted - PC borad or example schematics [message #169899 is a reply to message #169888] Fri, 03 March 2017 13:02 Go to previous message
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;) No more feed for trolls? - "!Don't feed trolls!"  :^0

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