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Price model for AutoDesk compared to old Eagle? [message #168710] Fri, 20 January 2017 07:35 Go to next message
picfve
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Registered: August 2015
Location: Denmark
Junior Member
Hi

I use Eagle 7.5 and have a payed license for "Commercial Light". I have license back to v4.

Yesterday i got a promotion mail about Eagle 8.0 from AutoDesk.

I am confused about the price model. My licensed Eagle 7.5 i payed about 80€ for my "Commercial Light" license.

**Where to find the price model?
**Is it Eagle AutoDesk a one time payment, or scheduled payment/fee?

If the price model have changed to a scheduled payment/fee as xx$/Month or xx$/Year I am looking for another program.

I don't hope AutoDesk will bring Eagle down to nothing, because the strongest card Eagle have, is all the pro. users there have used Eagle for years in business or as there hobby.
Re: Price model for AutoDesk, Subscription Only [message #168727 is a reply to message #168710] Fri, 20 January 2017 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
picfve
Messages: 16
Registered: August 2015
Location: Denmark
Junior Member
Real bad news:
http://hackaday.com/2017/01/19/autodesk-moves-eagle-to-subscription-only-pricing/

Will newer work, and for me it is time to find another PCB package. I have used it for years, and only payed for switching from one major version to another. I don't pay month fee!
Re: Price model for AutoDesk compared to old Eagle? [message #168733 is a reply to message #168727] Fri, 20 January 2017 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
geralds
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Registered: February 2014
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Eagle comes out as a big, pompous, like "angry bird", expensive monster car.
https://d21tktytfo9riy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/30124036/r ed-image.png
(www.angrybirds.com)
The insert video talks books.
PCB Design & Schematic Software | EAGLE | Autodesk (http://www.autodesk.com/products/eagle/overview)

But, its files and functions are the smallest ever I've seen.
What have Eagle what the others have not?
Nothing, absolutely nothing, yes Eagle have more then the others - more errors than even before.

They didn't learn about what the customers need.

I see that million small users - hobbyists also small companies have now much more problem using Eagle.
Its really to much price for the mostly small projects.

I do not use Eagle every day - i have a lot more jobs, but now i must pay for one product what i not daily use.
I do not need 16m², !! 16m² - up to 16 layers !! - wow / "and all mounted with SMD" /, but i need up to 6 or 8 layers for a small PCB.
Most projects lays by double Euro-Card, e.g. 160x233mm; or so, or for a backplane in a 19" housing.
Or i use it for for PCBs with 30x30,,,50x50mm dimension
- but! more layers as two because we have power planes, shielding, and much more on the PCB.
For these projects, I need a tailored licensing policy.
Eg for 1m², 16 layers, that is enough for all days.
This 16m² was then only for 1 company in the US, for 1 project; Well and then...? - we must pay for that! why? i don't use it.

I have a small company and fight every day to get jobs - so it will more complicate and more difficult.

Gerald
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Re: Price model for AutoDesk compared to old Eagle? [message #168761 is a reply to message #168733] Fri, 20 January 2017 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gpsmikey
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Registered: December 2011
Location: Western Washington, USA, ...
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Autodesk strikes again. Some years ago, my favorite DOS based CAD program was Generic Cadd - excellent program and well established ... until Autodesk bought them out. Almost overnight, we lost that program too. I won't be opting for the monthly ransom. Too bad - I guess Eagle 7 is the last version I will purchase.
Re: Price model for AutoDesk, Subscription Only [message #168812 is a reply to message #168727] Sun, 22 January 2017 18:32 Go to previous message
Ted D'Bear
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Registered: January 2017
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:02:17 +0100, Flemming <mail@fveng.dk> wrote:
> Real bad news:
> http://hackaday.com/2017/01/19/autodesk-moves-eagle-to-subscription-only-pr icing/
>
> Will newer work, and for me it is time to find another PCB package. I have
> used it for years, and only payed for switching from one major version to
> another. I don't pay month fee!

I'm very nervous about this since three companies made changes similar
to this which ruined the value to the customer. When Sony sold their
audio software to Magix, many users ran away, (myself included). To
pay what Autodesk is asking, they will have to justify the added cost
and show where it's worth it.

Ted
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Gemünden, Germany

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