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Board houses in Europa [message #160946] Tue, 19 May 2015 15:18 Go to next message
zainka
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Hi

I am searching for a board house (PCB manufacturer) that delivers high
quality multilayer boards and which supports non-standard stack-ups
using materials for high-freq. product.
*And!!!! which in addition are having their production facilities
located inside Europa.*

I am aware of the many lists of board houses that pops up listing the
+cheapest+ board houses, and I guess many of them might very well
deliver high quality products aswell, but I cant focus on this here and
the fact is that I get a little bit suspicious when a company shows up
on such a list. At which cost is the PCB so cheap? If you know what i
mean. I wil lask a few of those I already know for sample PCB's to do
some research on them but other peoples experiences is also valuable.

I also know there is a list at cadsoft but this is not a complete list I
believe. Atleast they where missing Wurth.

Breg Vidar(Z)

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Re: Board houses in Europa [message #160980 is a reply to message #160946] Thu, 21 May 2015 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Srgio Almeida
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Hi Breg!

Check this board house: HFA - Henrique, Fernando & Alves, S.A.
(http://www.hfa.pt/default.asp?lg=2)

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Re: Board houses in Europa [message #160981 is a reply to message #160946] Thu, 21 May 2015 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tilmann Reh
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vidar vidnes schrieb:

> I am searching for a board house (PCB manufacturer) that delivers high
> quality multilayer boards and which supports non-standard stack-ups
> using materials for high-freq. product.
> *And!!!! which in addition are having their production facilities
> located inside Europa.*

You might have a look at <http://www.multi-circuit-boards.eu/>.

Tilmann
Re: Board houses in Europa [message #160993 is a reply to message #160946] Fri, 22 May 2015 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morten Leikvoll
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On 19.05.2015 17:18, vidar vidnes wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am searching for a board house (PCB manufacturer) that delivers high
> quality multilayer boards and which supports non-standard stack-ups
> using materials for high-freq. product.
> *And!!!! which in addition are having their production facilities
> located inside Europa.*
>
> I am aware of the many lists of board houses that pops up listing the
> +cheapest+ board houses, and I guess many of them might very well
> deliver high quality products aswell, but I cant focus on this here and
> the fact is that I get a little bit suspicious when a company shows up
> on such a list. At which cost is the PCB so cheap? If you know what i
> mean. I wil lask a few of those I already know for sample PCB's to do
> some research on them but other peoples experiences is also valuable.
>
> I also know there is a list at cadsoft but this is not a complete list I
> believe. Atleast they where missing Wurth.

I think you will have a hard time finding a factory in Europe, they
mostly do their manufacturing in china, but add their own quality
control by carefully picking factories (or go broke). Since you seem to
be in Norway, I'd talk to "Josse" (John Steinar Johnsen)
Josse@elmatica.no at Elmatica. He knows his business and have been in
the game for many years, and I'm sure you will not get him stuck on any
question.
An alternative is PCBConnect.
Re: Board houses in Europa [message #160994 is a reply to message #160993] Fri, 22 May 2015 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tilmann Reh
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Morten Leikvoll schrieb:

> I think you will have a hard time finding a factory in Europe, they
> mostly do their manufacturing in china, but add their own quality
> control by carefully picking factories (or go broke).

Definitely not.

There are *many* board houses that still produce in Europe, and we also
buy only "locally" (i.e. made in Europe).

Tilmann
Re: Board houses in Europa [message #160996 is a reply to message #160994] Fri, 22 May 2015 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morten Leikvoll
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On 22.05.2015 09:09, Tilmann Reh wrote:
> There are *many* board houses that still produce in Europe, and we
>also buy only "locally" (i.e. made in Europe).


OK, I should have focused on the requested "high quality multilayer
boards and which supports non-standard stack-ups using materials for
high-freq" that OP asked about. This is a bit vague, but I guess this
points toward HDI. I surely dont know any Europeans doing it, but Im
open to suggestions.

Surely there are a lot of avg quality manufacturers.
Re: Board houses in Europa [message #161043 is a reply to message #160996] Mon, 25 May 2015 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zainka
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How can you be so damn sure that European board houses are avg. ones?
I understand that one might have tried one in the past and had bad
experiences but does that exclude them all as averages?

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Re: Board houses in Europa [message #161053 is a reply to message #161043] Tue, 26 May 2015 07:17 Go to previous message
Morten Leikvoll
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On 25.05.2015 19:58, vidar vidnes wrote:
> How can you be so damn sure that European board houses are avg. ones?
> I understand that one might have tried one in the past and had bad
> experiences but does that exclude them all as averages?

Im sorry, I think my thoughts came out wrong (again).
I was thinking that you can probably get average type of layout from
Europe (even in high quality), but I have yet to see an European factory
doing high[er] tech PCB layout as requested. That doesnt mean they don't
exist but for my HDI layouts I use the local expertise and quality
control, but they forward the job to Asian or US factories.

But again, Id like to get to know any Europeans doing HDI or higher
tech, so please post any you know.

I do try to read the PCB Magazine (US) now and then, but cant say I
notice much European stuff, but have a flip yourself through
http://iconnect007.uberflip.com/i/507417-pcb-may2015
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