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EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171783] Thu, 05 October 2017 00:53 Go to next message
James Morrison
Messages: 1130
Registered: November 2004
Senior Member

Hello everyone,

After almost a decade of running EAGLE Central I have decided that this will be the last month of EAGLE Central. It's been a fantastic journey and I thank all the people who have contributed over the years. I've learned a lot about EAGLE and hopefully been able to help others with finding the information they needed.

I'll keep the site running through until the end of October. It will shut down at that point.

There are many reasons for this, the main being that there just isn't the traffic here that there used to be. With AutoDesk now pushing their support through their own forums and not providing a way to easily sync that with the canonical EAGLE support NTTP servers there just isn't the need for this any more. And with the new licensing scheme of EAGLE I find myself using EAGLE less and less.

A brief history for those who weren't around for when this all started:

EAGLE Central was started when, in 2007, I noticed that I could not access the NNTP servers from within the corporate network of a business where I was doing contract work. When I looked into it I found that the NNTP port was being blocked and that this was not uncommon in the corporate world. I contacted Rudi and Klaus (owners of EAGLE at the time) and they assured me they had no interest in pursuing a web interface on their own, they had enough to do otherwise. But they were happy if I could provide something as long as I didn't break their NNTP server or corrupt its data.

Online support forums had also come a long way and had much more powerful searching capabilities than the NNTP clients had. And there was just a lot more effort going into web forums over NNTP clients at the time. So I did some research and within a month or two I had EAGLE Central running. It took a few months to tweak and get right, but it has worked pretty well ever since.

It was gratifying to know that I had the first working web interface to the EAGLE support forums. And when Newark purchased EAGLE they spent years trying to get their Element14 website to sync to the NNTP servers and never got it right. AutoDesk never tried, as far as I can tell, to sync to NNTP but have been content to let the NNTP sync fade into oblivion by simply not promoting it. In fact, I can't find a single mention to it on the current EAGLE website.

And it's a shame because there are so many benefits to the NNTP protocol. And when you can have a web interface you get the best of both worlds.

But all things must come to an end and it's the end of an era for me. I wish everyone I've worked with here nothing but the best in the future. May all your schematics be complete and all your layouts be clean. Perhaps our paths will cross again in the future.

Sincerely,

James.


James Morrison ~~~ Stratford Digital
http://www.stratforddigital.ca
Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171785 is a reply to message #171783] Thu, 05 October 2017 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rickb
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Registered: March 2016
Location: Junction City, OR USA
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Can the contents of this forum be put on dvd/hd in a way that we as individuals can get access to the data in a meaningful way?

Rick
Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171787 is a reply to message #171783] Thu, 05 October 2017 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morten Leikvoll
Messages: 1352
Registered: November 2007
Senior Member
On 05.10.2017 02:53, James Morrison wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> After almost a decade of running EAGLE Central I have decided that this
> will be the last month of EAGLE Central.  It's been a fantastic journey and
> I thank all the people who have contributed over the years. I've learned a
> lot about EAGLE and hopefully been able to help others with finding the
> information they needed.
>
> I'll keep the site running through until the end of October.  It will shut
> down at that point.
(deleted stuff)

Thanks for the ride. Sadly, good times always come to an end one day.
Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171788 is a reply to message #171783] Thu, 05 October 2017 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joern Paschedag
Messages: 1463
Registered: August 2008
Senior Member
Am 05.10.2017 um 02:53 schrieb James Morrison:
> Hello everyone,
>
> After almost a decade of running EAGLE Central I have decided that this
> will be the last month of EAGLE Central.  It's been a fantastic journey and
> I thank all the people who have contributed over the years. I've learned a
> lot about EAGLE and hopefully been able to help others with finding the
> information they needed.
>
> I'll keep the site running through until the end of October.  It will shut
> down at that point.
>
> There are many reasons for this, the main being that there just isn't the
> traffic here that there used to be.  With AutoDesk now pushing their
> support through their own forums and not providing a way to easily sync
> that with the canonical EAGLE support NTTP servers there just isn't the
> need for this any more.  And with the new licensing scheme of EAGLE I find
> myself using EAGLE less and less.
>
> A brief history for those who weren't around for when this all started:
>
> EAGLE Central was started when, in 2007,  I noticed that I could not access
> the NNTP servers from within the corporate network of a business where I
> was doing contract work.  When I looked into it I found that the NNTP port
> was being blocked and that this was not uncommon in the corporate world.  I
> contacted Rudi and Klaus (owners of EAGLE at the time) and they assured me
> they had no interest in pursuing a web interface on their own, they had
> enough to do otherwise.  But they were happy if I could provide something
> as long as I didn't break their NNTP server or corrupt its data.
>
> Online support forums had also come a long way and had much more powerful
> searching capabilities than the NNTP clients had.  And there was just a lot
> more effort going into web forums over NNTP clients at the time.  So I did
> some research and within a month or two I had EAGLE Central running.  It
> took a few months to tweak and get right, but it has worked pretty well
> ever since.
>
> It was gratifying to know that I had the first working web interface to the
> EAGLE support forums.  And when Newark purchased EAGLE they spent years
> trying to get their Element14 website to sync to the NNTP servers and never
> got it right.  AutoDesk never tried, as far as I can tell, to sync to NNTP
> but have been content to let the NNTP sync fade into oblivion by simply not
> promoting it.  In fact, I can't find a single mention to it on the current
> EAGLE website.
>
> And it's a shame because there are so many benefits to the NNTP
> protocol. And when you can have a web interface you get the best of both
> worlds.
>
> But all things must come to an end and it's the end of an era for me. I
> wish everyone I've worked with here nothing but the best in the future.
> May all your schematics be complete and all your layouts be clean.  Perhaps
> our paths will cross again in the future.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> James.

Hello James,

I am very very sad to hear this :-(

As far as I could see EAGLE Central and yourself were always very
helpful to the eagle community.
My respects and thanks for all that.

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards

Joern Paschedag
Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171789 is a reply to message #171783] Thu, 05 October 2017 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob Pearce
Messages: 487
Registered: September 2012
Senior Member
On 05/10/17 01:53, James Morrison wrote:
>
> After almost a decade of running EAGLE Central I have decided that this
> will be the last month of EAGLE Central. 

As a dedicated user of NNTP I've never really needed EAGLE Central but I
do really appreciate your efforts. You have been a star and a pillar of
this community. Thank you.
Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171810 is a reply to message #171783] Fri, 06 October 2017 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Friedrich Bleikamp
Messages: 89
Registered: August 2005
Member
Hello James,

as jörn already wrote it is really sad to read that.
Thank you for your commitment.

Freundliche Grüße / Kind regards
Friedrich

PS: Ups ... I need to change my signature/footer. ;-)
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Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171817 is a reply to message #171783] Fri, 06 October 2017 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warrenbrayshaw
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Registered: January 2010
Location: New Zealand
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Many thanks James for provisioning EagleCentral for many years and your
input to the forums. Your cool head and specific descriptions over the
years hugely benefited the community and the EagleCad product.

The established community has moved on and alas, not to the Autodesk it
would appear. Forum activity there is minor compared to Eagle's hay day.

Additional thanks for the information you provided via the occasional
email exchanges we had. All the best for the future.

Warren

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Re: EAGLE Central Announcement [message #171912 is a reply to message #171783] Tue, 17 October 2017 18:47 Go to previous message
Doug Wellington
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Registered: January 2010
Senior Member
Just wanted to add another note of thanks, James! It sure was great for a long time.
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